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	<title>Comments on: Does the Valet Control the Parking Lot?</title>
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		<title>By: valet owner the second</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-149545</link>
		<dc:creator>valet owner the second</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, i just want to ask if you ask the valet if you could park somewhere for 10 minutes to pick up a to go order.. a sane valet lets you do this..simply asking a question usually does the job, but for some reason people in their car feel invincable and become really small when they get out of it to talk to the valet. 
anybody on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, i just want to ask if you ask the valet if you could park somewhere for 10 minutes to pick up a to go order.. a sane valet lets you do this..simply asking a question usually does the job, but for some reason people in their car feel invincable and become really small when they get out of it to talk to the valet.<br />
anybody on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Valet Company Owner</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-126383</link>
		<dc:creator>Valet Company Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know these valet attendants where not anticipating a large party at the establishment in question.

So you realized parking was hard to find. Hmph. Well now try parking 60 cars for a surprise birthday party. In particular one in which all the cars need to be parked imediatly to avoid suspicion by the guest of honor.

Without having designated spots and being permited to block off spots for there intended use, these parties would not be possible.


The customers would not be happy, the restaurant owner would not be happy, The valet company would be replaced, or mandated to take control of the lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know these valet attendants where not anticipating a large party at the establishment in question.</p>
<p>So you realized parking was hard to find. Hmph. Well now try parking 60 cars for a surprise birthday party. In particular one in which all the cars need to be parked imediatly to avoid suspicion by the guest of honor.</p>
<p>Without having designated spots and being permited to block off spots for there intended use, these parties would not be possible.</p>
<p>The customers would not be happy, the restaurant owner would not be happy, The valet company would be replaced, or mandated to take control of the lot.</p>
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		<title>By: name</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-91613</link>
		<dc:creator>name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What first comes to mind, logically, is that the public parking spots are on a 'first come, first serve' basis. The valets were there first...so they marked the spots they were taking. Unethical, and there should be a 'one per customer' type limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What first comes to mind, logically, is that the public parking spots are on a &#8216;first come, first serve&#8217; basis. The valets were there first&#8230;so they marked the spots they were taking. Unethical, and there should be a &#8216;one per customer&#8217; type limit.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcallen</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-86860</link>
		<dc:creator>mike mcallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another way of doing this Michael is just ask the valet as you hand him a couple of bucks where you can park. They usually make a spot for you and they don't have to park your car. Everybody's happy.  Sadly, I admit I have worn the Valet red vest when I was in High School. Good high school job though.  Highlights of that job was I drove Jerry Rices Porsche and Joe Montanas Ferrari. Also was forced to pull the seat up for the 49ers big Bubba Paris specially made Mercedes because I couldn't reach the petals. All 6'4 of me. Only time ever had to pull a seat up in a car in my life. ahh memories. Funny post Michael thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way of doing this Michael is just ask the valet as you hand him a couple of bucks where you can park. They usually make a spot for you and they don&#8217;t have to park your car. Everybody&#8217;s happy.  Sadly, I admit I have worn the Valet red vest when I was in High School. Good high school job though.  Highlights of that job was I drove Jerry Rices Porsche and Joe Montanas Ferrari. Also was forced to pull the seat up for the 49ers big Bubba Paris specially made Mercedes because I couldn&#8217;t reach the petals. All 6&#8242;4 of me. Only time ever had to pull a seat up in a car in my life. ahh memories. Funny post Michael thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Priest</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-86200</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you writing an episode of the new Seinfield show? 
I would have phoned the resaurant and told them to bring the  order out to the curb or forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you writing an episode of the new Seinfield show?<br />
I would have phoned the resaurant and told them to bring the  order out to the curb or forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-85677</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Makes sense - the tow truck companies probably compete on the revenue share with the landlord/owner. I wonder where the pain point is? Who is most likely to reliquish back the empty spaces for us mere patons? I have half a mind to throw a big shinny light on my video camera and go "investigative journalist" style. I can just hear the "no comment - please leave" statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Makes sense - the tow truck companies probably compete on the revenue share with the landlord/owner. I wonder where the pain point is? Who is most likely to reliquish back the empty spaces for us mere patons? I have half a mind to throw a big shinny light on my video camera and go &#8220;investigative journalist&#8221; style. I can just hear the &#8220;no comment - please leave&#8221; statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Bourquin</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-85636</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Bourquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my other life as a Los Angeles police officer, I've seen many vehicles towed out of private lots by private tow services who can charge whatever they want to give you your car back (think $350 after just two hours of storage).  When we respond to the call, all I can tell the vehicle owner is that they can pay the fee and then sue the lot owner and tow truck company if they feel they've been price-gouged.

Most people don't know that if you park in a private lot, your car can be towed by the owner of that lot for basically any reason.  The laws unfortunately don't exist to protect the consumer in this area and it is a huge problem in Los Angeles.

Although I have not investigated it thoroughly, I have often known that the tow truck company kicked back a part of the "administration and storage" fee to the lot owner. It's a total scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my other life as a Los Angeles police officer, I&#8217;ve seen many vehicles towed out of private lots by private tow services who can charge whatever they want to give you your car back (think $350 after just two hours of storage).  When we respond to the call, all I can tell the vehicle owner is that they can pay the fee and then sue the lot owner and tow truck company if they feel they&#8217;ve been price-gouged.</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t know that if you park in a private lot, your car can be towed by the owner of that lot for basically any reason.  The laws unfortunately don&#8217;t exist to protect the consumer in this area and it is a huge problem in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Although I have not investigated it thoroughly, I have often known that the tow truck company kicked back a part of the &#8220;administration and storage&#8221; fee to the lot owner. It&#8217;s a total scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Likness</title>
		<link>http://mwgblog.com/archives/2007/09/07/does-the-valet-control-the-parking-lot/#comment-85569</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Likness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't give you any legal insight into any of this. But I do know this could easily happen in the area where I live. There are more than a few shopping centers with so-called 'high end' restaurants in them that would oblige customers and provide some kind of Valet parking for their customers. However, I have seen valet services use all kinds of side streets or parking garages to provision the spaces necessary for their customers. What those guys did smacks of downright stereotypical American LAZINESS. And worse yet, they had the gall to become Mafia like enforcers and punish anyone challenging their 'authority' over the parking lot. Kudos to you Mike for calling them on this. They are being jerks,and you let them know they were being jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t give you any legal insight into any of this. But I do know this could easily happen in the area where I live. There are more than a few shopping centers with so-called &#8216;high end&#8217; restaurants in them that would oblige customers and provide some kind of Valet parking for their customers. However, I have seen valet services use all kinds of side streets or parking garages to provision the spaces necessary for their customers. What those guys did smacks of downright stereotypical American LAZINESS. And worse yet, they had the gall to become Mafia like enforcers and punish anyone challenging their &#8216;authority&#8217; over the parking lot. Kudos to you Mike for calling them on this. They are being jerks,and you let them know they were being jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: Does the Valet Control the Parking Lot? &#124; Used Cars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does the Valet Control the Parking Lot? &#124; Used Cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 05:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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